Seeberger & Escobar Debate

So I went to the Seeberger and Escobar debate the other night. I was interested in going because the event was being held by a women's political organization and Republican Rick Seeberger is supportive of Judge Kavenaugh's appointment to the United States Supreme Court.

It was like being in an alternate reality. Seeberger said a lot of weird things, many of which were simply untrue, and some were borderline racist.

He was supportive of the Charlottesville rally of white supremacists when asked a question about the First Amendment. I was surprised by that but it got much more interesting. At one point Seeberger actually said that he "had a heart for Latin Americans" which sounded a lot like when Trump said he loves "the blacks".

If you weren't there, let me set the visual for what you missed. Imagine a guy that looks a little like John Gotti retreating over-the-top hyperbolic red meat conservative Fox News talking points to a crowd half-filled with supporters.

That was pretty much it.

Escobar fact checked him a lot.

One very interesting thing that Seeberger said that I think deserves the most attention is a claim he made that dead people voted in the primary in March. Remember when I wrote a post a while back about a source in the Seeberger campaign indicating that Norma Chavez was going to consult with the campaign?

Norma did her usual kicking and screaming and threatening to sue (bring it Norma). But what is interesting about Seeberger's claim of dead people voting is that the claim originally claim from the candidates that Escobar trounced in the primary in their lawsuit alleging voting irregularities.

Turns out they were wrong and they just didn't understand data.

But Seeberger's allegation that there were dead people that voted is something that can be fact-checked. It was in response to a question about whether you should be required to present ID when you vote. That is a very Republican stance so it is not surprising that he'd make such a claim.

However lets pull this car over and take a moment to take in the fact that Norma Chavez's ridiculous quixotic quest to justify to her ego why she got her ass kicked so badly in the congressional race ends up being part of GOP talking points for policy that hurts raza.

Once again Norma's ego ends up helping white Republicans hurt raza. How many times have we seen this play out now?

There was supposed to be a Q & A from the audience but that was canceled at the last minute. There was no explanation why, but the event was well run, moderators did a great job and the questions were thoughtful.

Seeberger kept talking a lot about truth, about the definition of insanity being doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result, and economics.

Thats why I wish they had allowed questions because I would've asked him - given those statements - how a guy who has had multiple bankruptcies, some very recent, the last included the lawyer from a previous bankruptcy as someone he owed money to, has the audacity to talk about managing the economy.

Oh, one quick sidebar. John Hogan, candidate for District 5 was there. An Hispanic woman dressed in black was there and at one point Seeberger asked his team to stand. She stood up identifying that she was with his team. After the event some people lingered outside and she greeted Hogan, saying that he probably didn't notice her because she was so short. I didn't think she was short, but Hogan is a pretty big guy, so maybe the term was relative.

I was there, so this is 100% accurate because I heard it first hand, he replied to her, "No, its because you're so dark." There was a brief pause and he finished by saying, "because you're wearing black".

She was about my complexion, which I'll admit, is dark.

But she was Republican, so I don't think the comment bothered her.